Over the weekend, the GreenPill podcast dropped this conversation I had with one of the governance technologists I admire most, former Taiwan digital minister Audrey Tang: https://pod.link/1609313639/episode/NWRjNTkzZjEtNzczMS00Zjk1LTljMTUtYWQwZWRlMWFmM2Nl
It is pretty sci-fi. But in times like these, sci-fi is at least part of what we need.