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Do You Believe in Mother God?

Mother LoveYesterday evening in Washington Square Park (or what’s left of it), just after getting off the phone with my mother, a man and a woman approached me and asked if I knew about God the Mother. At first, forgetting myself, I said I didn’t want to have that conversation. Thankfully, the man (who did all of the talking) insisted, and I remembered that there are few joys greater than discovering a new line of belief. So, at least until my friend came to roll her eyes at me and truck me off to dinner, I sat and talked Bible with the Mother-lovers.

The guy, who later said his name was Arturo, got out his Bible, made sure that I believe the Bible in the first place (knowing a qualifying discourse on Higher Criticism could prove a hang-up, I assured that I did), and took me on a whirlwind tour of the passages he had underlined in red. First, of course, Genesis 1:

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

The bolded portions were Arturo’s favorites. These elusive first-person-plural passages in the Word, he insisted, prove that there are two images of God—when people were created in God’s image, they were made male and female. Therefore so must be God, male and female, Father and Mother. (I mentioned the ideas of Zechariah Sitchin, who believes that the plural-ish construction Elohim, the Hebrew word for God, refers to the race of aliens who seeded the human race. My interlocutor was not amused.)

Next we went to the end of the Book, to Revelation.

And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, having the glory of God

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

So he asked me, Who can give eternal life? Can people give eternal life? No. Who gives eternal life? God. And here the bride is talking about the water of life. Well the bride is usually interpreted as the Church, I said. But a community of people can’t give eternal life he replied. Only God can, so the bride must refer to God. Jerusalem as well, one way or another.

There were more Bible passages sandwiched between those. A pretty nice piece of exegesis, if you ask me. Someone should hold an annual contest for the most creative, pretty consistent, and wholly original reading one can get out of the Bible. There’d be billions of entries.

Over the course of my lesson, I kept asking what the consequences of this belief were. Does the Mother God change the way one acts? Toward women, perhaps? He all but said no. This is justification by faith alone, apparently, and not works. To these questions he started speaking of the second coming, even suggesting that Christ may have already arrived on earth. Like most prophetic talk, I couldn’t follow what he was getting at.

As Arturo led me through, questions came in a hurry, with no time to consider a reply. Like a Jehovah’s Witness study service, there is only one answer to every question, and it is what’s written in the book in front of you. No opportunity to think—not that I have such great hope for what thinking can accomplish. Sometimes there are better things than thinking. It is a striking performance, that’s all.

When I mentioned that I write about religion, which I often do to get reactions, he said, as do many Biblical literalists, This is not religion, this is truth.

When my friend came and I had to go, Arturo invited me to a Bible study at their “Elohim Academy.” I asked if they had any pamphlets (I keep a collection of those). No. A website? It’s under construction. I got the sense he didn’t want me trolling after them on the web. He gave me his email address and I shook his hand. The Asian woman with him, who said not a word, left me hanging.

Of course, this morning, I jumped out of bed and onto Google. Here’s what I’ve learned, in interesting-fun-fact form:

  • The World Mission Society Church of God was founded 1964 in Korea.
  • The founder, Ahn Sang-Hong, was believed to be Christ’s second coming, but he died in 1985 and was succeeded by Zang Gil-Jah, “the heavenly Mother.”
  • Ahn sang-hong was previously a Seventh-Day Adventist, and his new church retains Adventist beliefs about the Saturday Sabbath and not celebrating Christmas.
  • When they say “Holy Land,” what they mean is the Republic of Korea.
  • Not surprisingly, edgy Christians call the World Mission Society Church of God a “cult.” (I insist on the less judgmental formula “new religious movement.”)
  • The church received an award from the Korean government.

Anyhow, there is so much more to learn, as always.

Over the years I’ve heard a lot of impassioned feminist arguments against the maleness of the Christian God. Even at the most permissive orthodox formulation, only the Holy Spirit gets to be female, and she is only 1/3 and the least anthropomorphic part of the Godhead (a dove, for goodness sake). Here is an opportunity to change that: a biblically-certified Mother God, no Erich Neumann necessary.

It is fascinating that this exegetical move comes to us from Korea. The West (by which I also mean the Near East), after tiring itself out in the Trinitarian debates of the fourth century, seems to have closed the door on any more dividing up God. But first-generation-Christian Koreans may see things more liberally. Maybe, after stretching to comprehend for the first time one God in three persons, one of whom has two natures, adding on an extra female image doesn’t seem like such a stretch. The West solved the “problem” of femininity in the forth century by proclaiming the theotokos—Mary, the Mother of God. But Koreans, evangelized mainly by Protestants weary of the divinization of Mary, might have had to fend for themselves a bit more creatively.

(Exception: the Shakers, in eighteenth- and nineteenth-century England and America, believed that their leader Ann Lee was the female manifestation of Christ. What I don’t know is whether they used any of the biblical explanations that the World Mission Society employs.)

Arturo, one way another, was positively thrilled about the Mother God; there is no doubt about that. If anybody in the New York area would like to learn more, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind you emailing him. I just might.

158 comments on “Do You Believe in Mother God?

  1. Hey Mark, How many children does mother have? Who is/was she married to? Are they all ‘in the truth’?

  2. married-to-kim,

    I don’t know to be honest with you. But, the only thing I do know is that I will go to church on Sabbath day, Saturday, and pray to her and ask brothers and sisters if they know anything. Passover is coming on Monday.

    Thanks for the discussion.

  3. I’m a believer, and I had a conversation with a couple of these folks today. I write in part to stregthen the faith of fellow brothers and sisters in Christ and to share additional biblical information with those who are associated with the Church of God, World Mission Society.

    From the comments above, I thought I’d just share a Scripture that I believe is pertinent to those interested in this discussion.

    “Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.” (Col. 2:16-19)

    Don’t listen to anyone who is telling you that you need to keep the Sabbath. The Law was a foreshadow to lead to Christ (Gal. 3:23-29). Salvation is completely by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

    I actually had a long discussion with these folks about the nature of the Davidic throne. To those believers who are out there, please be aware that Jesus came as the Jewish Messiah, and He will return again to establish a real, physical Kingdom. They tried to establish with me that Jesus is a “spiritual” David without offering any Scriptural proof to back it up. He did not “spiritually” fulfill the Davidic Covenant when He came to earth. This is not how David or any other Jew understood the Davidic Covenant when God established it with them in 2 Samuel 7. Jesus never corrected His disciples or the crowds that He would establish a real throne, as was expected. He did correct them about how they would participate it (they needed to believe in Him, which would also lead to repentance of sin…fulfilling the INTENT of the Law…which He summarizes in Matt. 22:34-40, cf. the Sermon on the Mount) and when it would happen (not immediately, which is what they thought…Jesus instructed them that He needed to die so they could be forgiven first). These folks will try to state that Jesus had to have already fulfilled all the offices and roles of the Davidic King in His first coming. This comes from nowhere in Scripture. Why is this all important? Because it is through this spiritual rendering of the Davidic Covenant that guys like Ahn Sang-Hong can claim to be the Christ. I say this as a Gentile, quoting Jesus as He spoke with the Samaritan woman, “salvation is from the Jews.” (John 4:22) God has not rejected His people. The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable (Rom. 11:28-29). As Gentiles, we are grafted in to God’s plan of salvation as part of His plan to save His people (Rom. 11:11-24). In this way, God also fulfills the Abrahamic Covenant, again, made to Israel, in which all the nations of the earth will be blessed (Gen. 12:3). God spent a lot of time in the Old Testament laying this principle down so we would not be deceived by antichrists. (I know there could be some verses talking about how we are all equal now…check the context…it is about our standing in the church (different from Israel) and how we are saved (all are saved by grace through faith). Those verses have nothing to do with the fulfillment of Old Testament covenants.)

    Our Lord warned us of false teachers. He stated directly: “See to it that you are not misled; for many will come in my name saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time is at hand’; do not go after them.” (Luke 21:8) Jesus states that His Second Coming will be apparent: “For just as lightning comes from the east, and flashes even to the west, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be.” (Matt. 24:27) You will have no need for anyone to instruct you when the Son of Man returns.

    Also, I know these are nice people. The people I spoke to were very nice, as well, but do not be mislead. Paul, speaking of false teachers, said, “For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.” (2 Cor. 11:13-14)

    To those who are a part of the Church of God, World Mission Society: I urge you to consider the very few verses I have been able to share above. You have fallen under false teaching. I would urge you to repent and turn to Jesus Christ alone for your salvation.

  4. Okay anonymous christian, when it speaks of the shadow od sabbath its speaking about how it was kept in the old testament. When Jesus Christ came, he came to fufill not to abolish.

  5. Melissa,

    I’m not exactly sure what point you are trying to establish in the above comment, so I don’t know entirely how to respond. Proverbs 18:13 says I’m probably a fool for still responding. However, I would point out that 9 out of the 10 Commandments are repeated for believers in the NT. Keeping the Sabbath was the only one left out. This is because this was something to be observed as participants in the Mosaic Covenant (Exod.31:12-18). Please read Acts 15. The Law and Gentiles came up in the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. Note that in the decision given, nothing is said about keeping the Sabbath (Acts 15:19-20 – really, from this verse, there is more basis to say that believers shouldn’t eat raw meat or meat from strangled animals than to say we need to keep Sabbath). I agree with you 100% that Jesus came to fulfill the Law, but that’s just the point. When Jesus was accused of breaking the Sabbath, one of the ways He responded was by speaking about what was greater than the Sabbath: “And if you had known what I means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless.” (Matt 12:7). The Law was given to an unregenerate nation without the power to obey God (Rom. 8:2-9). It does reflect the character and nature of God, but it was given to demonstrate our inability to be like God…it reveals how much of sinners we are (Rom. 3:20; 7:7). In this way, it leads us to faith in Jesus Christ (Gal. 3:19-29). Once we place our faith in Christ, we are transformed by the indwelling Spirit that He gives us, so that we are able to actually obey the intent of the Law (again, Rom. 8:2-9). What is the summary and intent of this Law? Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself, on these two commandments “depend all the Law and the Prophets” (Matt. 22:34-40). God is more concerned with your love for Him than whether or not you observe one day a week over another in rest. Now, we should meet with other believers, because we are called to not neglect the assembling of ourselves (Heb. 10:25) – and if we’re believers we are obviously going to love other believers and be with the church. Surely, we are also called to worship God, and the example we have received is to do this corporately, since Christ is doing His work through the corporate body of Christ (Eph. 4:11-16; Rom. 12:1-2). However, God does not demand that you do this on a particular day. The first day of the week (as a commemoration of Christ’s resurrection) would seem to be the better day to choose , since this is the example set out for us by Paul in the New Testament (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2).

    I do not mean to get involved in bickering over what to many may seem to be like minor details. However, the underlying issue that is the key here is the means by which we are saved. We are saved by grace, and not by the works of the Law. We cannot keep enough rules to be accepted by God, because we are imperfect sinners in His sight. We can only be saved by faith in Jesus Christ alone.

    Melissa, I do not write this to start any sort of a fight with Church of God, World Missions Society followers, such as yourself. However, as far as I know, you may be one of God’s elect, a potential sister in Jesus Christ. If you are, I do not want you to be deceived by what these people are teaching you. I understand they may be very nice, and they may have even helped you in your relationship with your boyfriend. However, apart from faith in Christ alone for salvation, it means nothing. Look at the Pharisees of Jesus’ day – they were very clean on the outside. They would probably put any of us to shame in terms their supposed righteousness, but Christ condemned them…because they did not obey from the heart, and they did not look to Him and Him alone for their salvation. They thought they could be good enough when they could not.

    More than just the works-based righteousness that I fear is prevalent in this religion, Ahn Sang-Hong and Zang Gil-Jah have set themselves up as idols to be worshipped rather than Christ. Again, Jesus Christ condemned the Pharisees of His day because they rejected Him. He is the fullest revelation of God that can ever be known. When someone rejects Jesus, they reject the Father (John 12:44-50). That is why no one can come to the Father but through Him (John 14:6). I implore you: if you continue to adhere to this teaching, you will not see the Savior.

  6. You are just blind from seeing the truth. We don’t only focus on Sabbath. In James 2:18 it says not just faith will allow you to enter the kingdom of heaven. In matt. 7:21 you must do the will of God. For sabbath day in the new testament it says to follow Christ’s path. and keeping the sabbath was his custom. Does it anywhere in the new testament say sunday? Sunday is a man made custom. You are following man by attending Sunday service and when that last day comes, God will simply ask , have you followed my commands? and what will you say? no because i found man’s custom much easier and for my benefit. Jewish people are our shadow. We must keep the passover to recieve eternal life. Not communion and not only by having faith. Youre basically telling me its okay to live my life and continue to do whatever i want but ill go to heaven if i have faith. why would God even allow us to have the bible if entering the kingdom of heaven was so simple. Everything that peeople nowadays follow are what Constantine abolished and since its been a custom for so long everyone truly believes that sunday and communion are right. you can follow what you want, if you have strong faith in what you believe, so be it but not anything you say or show me willl convince me that i don’t have a heavenly mother and that sabbath isnt saturday. I shouldn’t have to argue with you because i know I’l truly work with faith to enter the kingdom of heaven.

  7. Melissa,

    I am saddened to read your response. Look at James 2:18 and its surrounding context again. In James 2:24 (which is the verse I would have expected you to bring up, rather than 2:18, given your position), James says “that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.” However, in no way does James mean you are saved by your works! First, the word for “justified” in 2:24 in the Greek is the same word used in reference to Christ in 1 Timothy 3:16 when it says He was “vindicated” in the Spirit. The idea is that of “proving” or “verifying.” Next, look at the examples that James uses. He points out in v. 21 that Abraham was “justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar.” When did this event occur? The answer is Genesis 22. When did Abraham believe in God and it was credited to him as righteousness? Genesis 15:6…seven chapters before the near sacrifice of Isaac. What is happening in Genesis 22? Abraham’s faith is proven to be genuine. Look at Genesis 22:12, when the angel of the Lord replies, “Do not lay your hand on the boy or do anything to him, FOR NOW I KNOW that you fear God, seeing you have not withheld your son, you only son from me.” (emphasis mine) You are absolutely right that we should obey God. Sadly, too many believers act like faith should not be accompanied by works. However, those works come AS A RESULT of our faith in and love for God. They in no way earn our salvation. How does this fit with what you referenced that Jesus said in Matthew 7, that He will reject all those who practice lawlessness? It goes like this: If I believe that Christ is who He says He is and saved me from my sin, then, supposing I have a desire to actually want to be saved and see God, I will love Christ for what He has done for me (1 John 4:10). How will I express this love? Jesus states it is by obeying His commandments (John 14:15). On the other hand, if I do not obey God’s commandments, then it is probably a sign that I do not love God. If I do not love God, then how is it that I could ever claim that I would even want to saved, since salvation means being reconciled to God for eternity? In short, how can I even ask to be reconciled to God by faith if I live in such as to prove that I hate God?

    I would point out that by attempting to obey God in order to earn your salvation you are actually disobeying Him. Think about this. What is true obedience to the Law? Jesus again states it in Matt. 22:34-40 that it is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” That is the standard God requires…that you love Him with all your strength from your innermost being. Do you do that? The answer is “no.” Nobody, apart from Jesus, has done that or ever can do that. According to this standard, if salvation comes from obedience to the Law, then we’re all damned to Hell. Again, we need an Intercessor to become our righteousness for us…to be the fulfillment of the Law for us…if we ever hope to see God. Again this, is Jesus Christ (2 Cor. 5:21).

    I’m getting off subject. Your obedience, biblically, is supposed to come from a genuine love for God. Now, think about what you’re saying. You are obeying in order to save yourself. Why are you obeying? Who is the object of your love in your obedience? It’s you. You’re obeying so that you will be saved. You’re obeying for your benefit. Think about what I am saying. I’m not obeying to save myself. I’m already saved apart from my works. Then, why would I obey? Because I love God. I have no reason to obey for myself…I gain nothing from it. Why then do I obey? Because I love God. Which of these two options is the fulfillment of Jesus standard in Matthew 22? Any attempt to earn salvation actually results in a violation of God’s Law.

    Beyond that, I would challenge you to examine which other Old Testament laws you keep, if you say that we must obey the Law, as Jesus did, in order to enter into Heaven. If it is discovered of someone in your church is guilty of adultery, do you put them to death (Lev. 20:10)? Would you put a child who cursed their mother or father to death (Exod. 21:17)? (To this you may say, “We practice grace, as Jesus did.” To which I would reply, “That’s exactly my point. The Law is not fulfilled in keeping codes, but in loving the Lord in holiness.”) Do members of your congregation build parapets on their houses when they build a new house (Deut. 22:8)? Is it a sin for someone in your congregation to eat raw meat (Lev. 3:17)? Must we abstain from pork to enter into Heaven (Lev. 11:7)? Have you ever kept a Passover by making sacrifices in the Temple (which Jesus also did by example)? Have you ever made sacrifices in the Temple? I would wager to say you probably don’t practice these things. In fact, in regards to the last two…you absolutely can’t do these things. And that’s just the point! We CAN’T obey the Law! Which is why it is completely by our faith in Jesus Christ that we must be saved!

    I would strongly encourage you to read Colossians 2 again carefully. Judaizers in Paul’s day tried to get members of this church to look for things other than Christ for their salvation, and Paul answered this issue there. This movement you are a part of is doing the same thing. It does not hold fast to the Head, which is Christ.

    I am most saddened to hear that there is not anything I can show you that will convince you that you must not keep Sabbath or that you do not have a mother god. All I have done is explained the teaching of Scripture. You’re telling me that even if I prove to you from Scripture that this teaching is false, you will not listen. You have predetermined that I am wrong…regardless of what I say from the Bible. That sounds like you’re making the decision on what is true…not the Bible. Why would you say this? What would you have faith in rather than what you find in the Scriptures? The teachings of your leaders about the Scriptures? Do you disregard what I have to say because they would tell you to disagree with me…because they tell you I’m wrong without adequately explaining why…or because you have examined the Scriptures and determined for yourself what the truth is? Melissa, you must determine what is true from the Scripture on your own. It does not matter what your leaders say. What does the Scripture say? This YOU must determine, for it is YOU who will stand accoutable for yourself before God on the day of judgment.

    I will leave it at that. Unfortunately, I cannot continue to invest my time in these responses if you are unwilling to listen to the Scriptures, since that is all I have to offer concerning the truth regarding salvation. I want you to know salvation, but there are others that are willing to hear, and Christ makes it clear in His ministry that I should invest my time in them. I would be more than willing to continue our discussion should you decide that you are willing to examine the issue from the Scriptures, as the Bereans did when Paul explained Christ to them for the first time(Acts 17).

    I do wish you the best, Melissa. I fear that at times my responses may sound harsh or overly blunt. I do not reply in this manner because I am trying to make you feel bad or because I am trying to prove that I am right. The reason I do it is because, although I do not know you, I do have Christian love for you and I desire the best for you. What that means in this instance is that I be direct about what the Scripture has to say. I will continue to pray for your spiritual well-being and happiness.

  8. it’s okay. you’re just blind to see that there’s 2 images of God. Genesis 1:27. I don’t want to argue anymore, you have your beliefs I have mine. and there’s 2 different laws, Moses law and Christ’s law. I’m only 17, and you probably label your religion. I’m just glad I’ll have eternal life thanks to Father and Mother. You have a single parent family. I’m done, have a wonderful day. 🙂

  9. Do you see women on the earth? Your evidence that God has a female image. God said let US make man(male and female Gen 5:1-3)in Our image. Us is plural. Not too hard people why all this discussion. Mother is here hope you recognize before it’s too late. Dont end up like the sadducees…

  10. Below is a recent video lecture on the World Mission Society Church of God by Korean professor Ji-il Tark of Busan Presbyterian University, whose father was murdered by a member of the cult.

    http://vimeo.com/13084915

  11. I’m 14, and this Church has ravaged the relationship with most of my family! Especially… the relationship with my mom. She is an entirely different person since. I’m not a believer (though there were efforts among the “brothers” and “sisters” to convert me) and never will be. I can relate 100% to some posts listed above; my mom is constantly going to her church — she even started “recruiting”, as one poster saved me the fine analogy. She would leave at 2 PM and arrive no later than 10 or 11 PM.

    I’ve gone to this church; I’ve heard the preaching of God (Mother and Father, respectively), and, I have to admit, they MIGHT have concrete proof… but I keep seeing contradiction in all aspects of their ministry.

    They often go back and forth through the Bible, NITPICKING specific verses (though looking at the surrounding content will usually prove them). I can understand where they’re coming from, but when I’m feeling daring and ask certain kinds of questions… they end give me the usual droning memo: “Oh, it’s all in the Bible.” or “You have to go to the studies.” It’s infuriating.

    …To have lived my life in Christ and then have some recriminatory religion proclaim my damnation if I don’t settle for the god-mother. What bogus shite is that?!

  12. My husband and I did get a pamphlet from them, but it’s just pretty pictures of happy animals and has no contact information or anything on it.

    We were also spoken to by a white guy with an, albeit male, Asian companion who did not speak.

    We actually wanted to talk to him at first because both of us are religious scholars who have a great deal to say about the feminine aspects of the Jewish/Christian/Muslim god, but I just ended up feeling bad for the main guy because he couldn’t even articulate what HE thought, let alone respond to what we were saying. At least Mormons and JW’s usually have a clear understanding of what THEY think. Plus, Mormons will do your yardwork and housework for you.

    All I have to say is, if you’re going to wander neighborhoods asked about the female aspects of God, you should at least KNOW the following things:

    1. Who Lilith was.
    2. The concept of Sophia/Hagia Sophia
    3. That nuns are considered ACTUAL BRIDES of Christ.

    Furthermore you shouldn’t say that no christian/jewish writing that’s not in the King James Bible “doesn’t count” – ESPECIALLY when you quote PETER the apostle as saying “only stuff from the apostles” counts and when The books of two apostles – Thomas and Barnabas were kicked out of the Bible.

    And finally, if you’re going to claim the pope and/or the catholic church is the FREAKIN’ ANTI-CHRIST, you really shouldn’t be listening to anything Peter says at all. Especially since it’s well-documented he was a SEVERE woman-hater. That might get in the way of your whole “divine mother” thing.

    Just Sayin’.

  13. OMG: I think the Row Boat comment stream has de facto turned into the world’s premiere “Mother God” discussion forum?

  14. Hey this is a really great post. Just met two of those people, male and female, yesterday at the Time Warner Center. The funny thing is I am Jewish and they didn’t know so I know a lot about what they preach. Another funny thing is that they think that the Jewish people don’t know what they preach. Well, it’s all coming from the Hebrew tradition. Jesus was Jewish and he taught that tradition. The idea of the feminine aspect of God as taught in the Hebrew tradition is called Shechina or Shchina (look it up). The word means dwelling. It is the unseen hidden aspect of God, the receptive quiet voice, the container of light or what you guys call holy grail, hence pregnancy is associated with the feminine which is a container to the light.
    I liked a lot of things that these people said but I don’t understand one thing which is something that shows up many times whenever I interact with any kind of Church or an organization that claims to be teaching the ‘truth’. If they truly understand the essence of God why would they focus so much on Jesus, the Christ or any specific person who they claim to be god-like? This behavior shows that they do not understand God at all. God is everything, everywhere. It is not a man nor woman, it cannot be defined and that’s what most people fail to understand. The idea of God is greater than what our minds can process and so as people, in these bodies, we keep trying to reduce God into something concrete, to define and confine it, to make a sculpture out of it or create other images to represent it including the use of human beings as representations of God. This clearly shows a major misunderstanding. You don’t need to find God. You already have it. It’s inside each and every one of you (even the mother God is!). And all these people who tell you that they know the truth and other people don’t, don’t listen to them, because only you know the truth. Everything is the truth because God is everything. And if you find contradictions, then it is only because you still live with the belief that appearance is the essence. Apparent good or evil are all God because the essence of those is the same. Whereas good is the light and love, evil is a void that’s created when there’s the absence of light or the absence of love. It’s only the way these two are manifested in our world that lead us to confusion. Accept all because all is God and God is one and one is LOVE.

  15. 2 people from this group also knocked on my door. Both were pleasant. A haiwaiian lady and a while man. Both in their 30s. Anyway they told me the same stuff. I also asked many questions. We talked for a couple of hours. They lady came to my house again along with a Asian lady this time. The asian lady took charge of the studies. towards the end they invited me to bible study on the upcoming Saturday. They told me that they went to church all day on Sat and that there would be no need to leave inbetween services because they provided food for you.
    What I felt was odd during the services was that 1. all female members sat together in the middle section of the church with their heads covered while the men sat on the far right. I asked about this and was told that it was this way so that the women would not talk with the husbands or boyfriends and distract the service. DON’T WOMEN WOMEN WHO SIT TOGETHER TALK TO EACH OTHER?? 2. Every church that I have ever visited, I’ve always had the pastor shake my hand or at least acknowledge me as a visitor there. My first two times there I did not get to meet the pastor to say hi or shank his hand…I was only able to hear him preach at the pulpit…Maybe because he was korean and there might have been a problem with understanding him….I don’t know. Anyways I was lead to believe that you mainly needed to be there on Saturdays….But the two females that brought me there called my home constantly and texted me constantly about going to church on Tuesdays and also going with them to meet other potential members thoughout the week. I felt like they were taking all of my time. And I am out exaggerating when I say that these they were very agressive. when I said that I could not come. they would keep calling to say that they were on their way to get me. I honestly started to feel as if I was being harrassed. If I told one of them that I could not go then they would have another member to call me right back…like double teaming or something. Against my better judement I let them talk me into getting baptized…I was told that God had a name (Jehovah), that Christ had a name (Jesus) and that there was one more person but that I would not be told the name until I had been to many more meetings. I continued to ask…then finally one of the members said I will tell you the name now if you promised to get baptized. Not thinking straight I agreed to it. My son and I were both baptized the following day. I thought that on this day I would finally get to shake hands with the pastor…it did not happened..even though he was in one of the rooms there. Instead I shook the hand of his wife (asian) and one of the brothers who performed the ceremony. Afterwards he was given a big book which he wrote down our names and address. Then while we were still dripping wet he took our picture….After that I was being hounded several times a day to go to bible study and to go to church on Tue and Sat….On top of that just hearing about the 2012 deal and there being a certain number of people that they need by then has just completely weired me out…like sometimes I find myself wondering “Will they come to my home sometime in 2012 and try to abduct me and my child”? I mean they do have my info on file now along with a picture. Anonyomous do you or anyone else out there have any advice or suggestions for me??

  16. Dear tye,
    If you choose that you do not want to go to this church than no one can force you. The wonderful thing about God is that he gave us choice. He is not forcing us to.
    When I heard about heavenly father and heavenly mother i cried. I knew this was the truth. No one forced me to get baptized. i wanted to get baptized now knowing the truth.
    This brothers and sisters will not force you too.
    and the pastor is probably very busy. Read the Bible. It’s all in there

  17. I was also approached at school by two young girls with the same story, they too said it was for their theology class and they only had a few questions. I was taking a class break so i only had about 10 min to spare, I kept telling them to get to the point because they kept lagging it. I was very amused and entertained by what they had to say…I’m a mother of two with a full time job and going to school, i got no time to be wasting with foolishness by was intrigged by this new theology i had never heard of. We were supposed to have met two days after for more of this mother god but they never made it. I gave them my email and my phone number heard from them weeks later wanting to me. By this time i had spent the weekend with my son at the hospital like i said i dont have time to play games.

    I would have been interested in this whole thing but two things put me off…there is a date for this end of world type of thing…2012? and mother god is alive living in korean…haha you got to be kidding me. Is this a joke? I’m not believing in someone who is alive….and serving three days out of the week. I got bills to pay people kids to support is not happening lol.

    Thanks for all your replies this was awesome!

  18. Please Listen to the Voice that’s speaking to you. Do not be fixed in your own thoughts and ideas. If you dont listen then you will never learn( i was also like this).
    BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE COS THAT’S THE ONLY INSTRUCTOR YOU HAVE.

  19. Unfortunately, the bible speaks about false prophets and to be aware and watchful. The bible is clear in the second coming of Jesus. He will be like a thief in the night, we will not know the day or hour he will come bakc, but when he does he will take all his people back with him. Unfortunately many people in thsi denomination take the bible so literally and are unable to understand the metaphors that constantly show up n the bible.
    Jesus died once! He is to never die again to prove that not even death can hold back the saving power of Jesus. He has NOT returned yet, believe me if he DID we will know. When Jesus comes back he will come back for his people and leave, there is no waiting period, no…hanging out for years and years to come..that is not biblical at all. Nor did he speak about coming back in the form of a woman or “mother”.

    I find it interesting that Gaby said that the part about mother god is secretive and hidden…WHAT???!!! So does that mean that God makes it difficult for us to know who he is? No, that is opposite of who God is..Yeah the bible says tere will be mysteries and things that we cannot explain in the flesh but if God wanted us to know there was a female…he would have said it when he speaks of creating the world. The bible talks about 3 the Fther the Son and the Holy Spirit…not no mama ya’ll.

  20. hi
    i wish to say if there is a God of mother and the God of father(trinity),then if we pray to God of mother,it will be different from God the father!because the bible only say God is trinity which is the father son and holy spirt and no mother!and the bible didnt say that there is a God of mother,they say bribe but what makes you think that bribe is God of mother?and if God of mother is true,i wont worship her or anything,as she dont do anything for me,unlike God the father who has done great and mighty things in my life and send his only beloved son to die on the cross for us.So whats the point of talking much about her and make ourself confused and doubt God.We cant assure that if there a God of father there must be God of mother as we humans are totally different from God!and God himself know much more things than we humans,thus the bribe maybe other things,you cant assure unless God come and tell you that bribe is God of mother.and you see those ‘bribe’ words are written in revelation and revelation is about the end times which havent even come,so we can assure that bribe is God of Mother.the bible never indicate that there is God of mother and everyone knows that it clearly indicate that ther is God the father!Lastly i just want to say end times is near and there will be many fake saying!

  21. oh and there is many different prophets saying that there is a mother of God,some even can show me how it looks!God is bright and no one can see him how can you see God of mother?unless you telling me that God of mother is an unholy God?and why do you guys believe in God of mother so much,when so what if is a god of mother it makes no different!God loves you brother and sister in christ a lot,the only way to do God wants you to do is to be close to him and you will know that there is no such thing as God of mother,if there is the holy sprit will tell you!its one of the fake prophets,no offense.btw,BEWARE!

  22. when he said let us make man in our image our likeliness he is not talking to whoever God the mother is.. there is no such thing give me a clear verse that says there is God the mother? only god the father an when it says in Genesis let us make man in our image he is talking to the son Jesus christ The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit…
    how do i know this…
    John 1-2: in the beginning was the word the word was with God the word was God…Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
    verse 14 the word became flesh(jesus christ)…

    john 17:5
    And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began…
    You cannot use scriptures or verses and take it out of context…plus there is no clear verse that will say God the mother… when there is only God the father…

    and for the creation he created women so that man will have company…. sure they were both made in Gods image still does not explain anything about God the mother…
    so As a christian there is no such thing as god the Mother…. and u wont find it in the bible..

  23. A while back my friend had come 2 me and was telling me about the second coming Christ. At first my response was of course…YOUR CRAZY!!! but after a while of her continuing 2 talk about it I became more interested and wanted 2 see 4 myself. I figured my dearest friend who loves me, wouldnt lead me astray, so I went 2 a study myself. The first study I did was “Learn The lesson Of The fig Tree” I was absolutly amazed. tears came 2 my eyes and I felt truely blessed 4 God allowing me 2 be 1 of the 1s 2 hear the trumpets!!! If you havent learned the lesson from the fig tree how can you say he never came back. anyways…I wanted 2 make sure this was no game, trick, or test. and definatly not a cult!!! My father always taught me 2 do my research. I researched history. the bible. The TRUTH!!! Ive never been 1 2 be easily fooled or tricked. I had 2 make sure, I mean this was my salvation at stake…RIGHT??? So I researched 2 the T. And not only that but i studied lesson after lesson, and still study and have yet 2 find any lies or falseness N The Church Of God. or their teachings. Everything we learn comes from God himself. Its something you have 2 see 2 believe. Do your own research.and BIBLE STUDIES!!!! The BIBLE DOESNT LIE. I THANK MOTHER AND FATHER EVERY DAY 4 BLESSING ME!!!! Take a trip 2 The Church Of God and learn 4 yourselves. They have came. Who cares if God is a woman or Man or “BOTH”. “ASIAN”, Black or white??? I Dont!! GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. In the bible, it is clearly written wife of the bridegroom.Rev.19,21 chapter.she is jerusalem, she is the Mother of the of the apostle paul Gal.4:26.if it is not written in the bible then The teaching of the God the Mother is wrong.So it is not a new thing . It is written in the bible so the person who believe bible must also believe what is written in it.and apostles teaching and God the father s will.If you has any questions please tell to me with the grace of my father Ahn Sahng Hong .I will help.
    MAY EVERY ONE UNDERSTAND GOD S WILL.. AMEN

  25. I loved this Blog!
    I describes almost word for word what happened to me tonight!
    I was just approached by two young men while I was having dinner. They asked me if I believed in God, and I said yes. (As I am a devout follower of Christ). Then the verses began…highlighted section after section COMPLETELY out of context sadly. So sad it broke my heart in fact. The Word of God is very precious to me. They both mentioned Mother God. I informed them that I did not believe in another entity and that the Bride meant “The church” the beloved of God (As is referred to in the book of Revelation which they kept referencing). As I disagreed with them firmly yet with love and gracein my heart for them, I mentioned that as Christ was reaching His last moments on the cross, He cried out to “Eloi” which in Hebrew means Two. I explained to them that He was calling to God The Father and The Holy Spirit. He would count as 3. This refutes there being a MOTHER head and further solidifies the holy Trinity. God the Father, Son, And the holy Spirit. I’ll pray for them.

  26. I have been to South Korea. In 2002, I found out about the New Jerusalem Mother and was taught as much as I could learn while working as an English Teacher. I had much doubts and was constantly at odds with myself over this, being a devout Christian my whole life, mostly in the catholic church. Once I learned more, I decided to accept the Spirit and the bride as our Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother. I have no doubts now. I am a witness to what I have seen. New Jerusalem Mother Zahng, Gil Jah is our HEAVENLY MOTHER. We are all brothers and sisters who have gone astray from God. Spiritually, we are all from God, and one day in the near future, I hope to return to God in heaven as a spiritual being. I would only like to add that Passover which Jesus gave us 2000 years ago is an important part of our belief and it is coming soon…April 17th, 6pm…beginning with a foot-washing ceremony, followed by bread and wine of Passover, for the forgiveness of sins, salvation, and eternal life….Exodus 12, Leviticus 23, John 6:53, Matthew 26:17~, and Luke 22:17. God bless all the members of Church of God, World Mission Society. God bless all those who have heard but yet do not believe in Heavenly Mother. I pray they will be blessed by God’s mercy and grace to understand…these are the last days and we are experiencing much distress today, like the bible warned us about…earthquakes, famines, wars, rumors of wars, etc…
    Please explore and learn more about our church before making a concrete decision to reject God, our MOTHER. I was with her in New Jerusalem in 2007 and I know she is God. Amen!….God bless you. Mark, brother

  27. Hey people wake up!! and read Matthew 22 : 27-30

    27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?” 29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

    will be like the angels in heaven means no sex, no gender, no genital because angel is spirit, not flesh!! and at the resurrection people will be transformed from flesh body to spirit fom!!

    WAKE UP, please!! …

  28. Remember and read again!! Matthew 28 : 18-20

    18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

    “ALL” authority in “heaven” and on “earth” has been given to Jesus!! means “Only Jesus” has the “eternal” power and glory to save people!! thus Jesus is the “Only Way”!!

    and Jesus has “taught & commanded” baptizing people in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit only!! that “only then” Jesus will surely be with HIS people always, to the very end of the age!!

    Wake up PEOPLE!! …

  29. and … God has foretold and revealed this … READ!! the whole of Jeremiah 7 spesifically Jeremiah 7 : 18-19, and the whole of Jeremiah 44 …

    18 The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger. 19 But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame?

  30. Amen! God bless you, brother…

    I will continue to believe in Heavenly Mother the bride of the Spirit…Christ Ahnsahnghong…who gives us the new covenant Passover…April 17th…at World Mission Society, Church of God…6pm…foot-washing ceremony….followed at approximately 7pm…bread and wine…body and blood of Christ.
    Mark, brother

  31. 1 Timothy 2 : 5-6

    5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

    BUT again, for the last, PLEASE remember!! and consider this Jeremiah 44 : 25-26

    25 This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: You and your wives have done what you said you would do when you promised, ‘We will certainly carry out the vows we made to burn incense and pour out drink offerings to the Queen of Heaven.’ “Go ahead then, do what you promised! Keep your vows! 26 But hear the word of the LORD, all you Jews living in Egypt: ‘I swear by my great name,’ says the LORD, ‘that no one from Judah living anywhere in Egypt will ever again invoke my name or swear, “As surely as the Sovereign LORD lives.”

  32. No one man or woman on this earth can change my belief…

    I stand on Mount Zion with 144,000, home of the new covenant feasts of the Spirit and the bride, who give us the water of life.

    Revelation 14:1~5
    Revelation 22:17
    Revelation 19:7
    Revelation 21:2, 9~
    Galatians 4:26

    MOTHER of us all.

    NEW COVENANT…

    Passover…
    Matthew 26:17~28
    Luke 22:7~20
    John 6:53

    Feast of Tabernacles…
    John 7

    Sabbath day is Saturday…
    Luke 4:16~
    Mark 16:1, 9

    Sabbath was over…Sunday is Resurrection Day…April 24th.

    PERIOD.

    Amen!!!

    All praise honor and glory to God most High, Father and Mother.
    Ahnsahnghong and bride of the Spirit, MOTHER.

    Peace be with you…Holy Spirit be with you…

    or not???

    Mark, brother

  33. Im in Seattle, Washington today I was approached by two young ladies at the mall and the same situation happened to me they asked if i knew about this “mother god”. To make a long story short it was different people same kind of encounter. After doing alittle research and talking to my mother ( which whom is a pastor), It made me very angry that these people are taking the bible out of context and having the nerve to call themselves christian. The belief of a mother god is against Gods commandments. So for you people who believe the mother god concept I pray that you get it together and really do some research on your false god and the whole heartedly seek out the true and living God.

  34. I Believe in God the Mother and Father
    Asked and pray for wisdom. Just as Jesus came 2000 years in the FLESH as a MAN Carpenter, no majesty to him (Isaiah 53:2). His own chosen people rejected him and guess what they killed him. Not until after he died did they realize that they killed GOD. However if they would have believed in the Old testament which prophesied about him they would have known that he was GOD. When reading and understanding prophecy about 2nd coming Christ and MOTHER the BIBLE give several indicators on how his people/ Children can recognize him in several scripture in the bible. Just as it is now in THE LAST day’s people are denying GOD. I’m sorry we have a Living GOD yes Mother and Yes God the Father came as well. Please don’t be like the people spoken of in the bible who denied the disciples who came to bring them the good news THE GOSPEAL of Second Coming Christ and New Jerusalem. Pray earnestly. And study the Bible (Hosea 4:6). His people are destroyed for LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. People tend to try to make the bible fit their situation or their reality but what is written in the BIBLE is the truth it may be harsh and at times hard to accept because of tradition or teachings that we were taught from birth. The BIBLE is TRUTH and every word should be taken as such….

  35. AMEN!!!
    All Praise, honor, glory, and thankfulness goes to our Spirit and our bride who give us the much needed spiritual water of life in these last days.
    Christ Ahnsahnghong and New Jerusalem MOTHER!!!
    To heaven we shall go…Mount Zion.
    God bless the true believers.
    God help the non-believers.
    Peace be with you…
    God be with you…HOLY SPIRIT and His Bride.
    AMEN!!!

  36. I am one of “these people.” I live in the San Fernado valley. Pacoima to be exact. If any one ever wants to study about the Mother of us all, the truth of salvation, or have a question about the Bible which has not yet been answered please email me. movementnow@yahoo.com

    God Bless You

  37. I want to study with you brother…always want to study the TRUTH contained through Jesus Christ…about Father and Mother and the new covenant, including Sabbath day on Saturday and Passover Feast to Feast of Tabernacles.
    God be with you and Peace and Love of God be with you, brother, brothers and sisters in the faith…TRUE…Mark, brother

  38. Amen!.. The existence of God the Father and God the Mother as well, are clearly testified in the bible. Only those who has humble mind and heart can accept and understand the truth about Them. God bless you all. <3

  39. On mothersday i had a dream that i will soon transform 2 something different, without a body, but to understand it all i first have to get baptized. I have a friend who is in the church of god at studies a day with me, that was last year. I was so busy with my study in college and i said to her, its not that i dont believe what you are saying, its more i have a strong mind and if im ready to open up i will notice, i just know right now im not ready for information that will come to my ear, the information will do nothing with my mind and heart at the moment. And then she left, we stayed good friends.

    Now i think 6 months later, i saw the movie Thor in the cinema, its a marvel. I thought it was such a good movie and the story brought me thinking, there was something interesting about it. Thor was 1 of the gods and he did not obayed is father, not showed his people the right way of being, there was so much anger in him aswell and his brother was always jelous of him. Because of Thor not listening to his father the King, he was send to planet earth and all his almighty powers was gone. His father said ro him, The person that is Thor Worthy will have all the powers. The meaning was, at least my interpreation of it, that Thor was send to planet earth of a sin and he has to learned Kindness and loveness from the human mandkind, so he became a man and meant nothing, till the day he helped so many people, saved people, felt loving, offers himself, he got his powers back and returned to the place they lived in the universe. My interpretation of it, was that Thor his father knew that Thor one day will get all his powers back, but thor himself had to do something for it to earn it back.

    The story kept me thinking it was so interesting, and since a little kid i had something with the universe, i dunno why. And at the moment i only go 1 day school 1 day internship because i feel my brain needs some rest, im listening to my body, my body cannot keep up what my minds what to do because its not capable of it.

    So the inspiration of the movie Thor and the time i have right now got me open up to learn more of the bible, because i belief that there is a somebody that made it all, i believe in the relativity theory of einstein and that times means something different on earth then in space. And then tuesday i was free and asked my friend if she had any plans because i was bored. She said she is going to church, i can join if i want. I said yes, i wanted it to, it was my time right now, that was the feeling i got when i said yes. It was like my mind and heart were ready to receive information now. And i also spoked to people of the church, i was glad i went and i got baptized that day, today is sabbatday and im going to church. The feeling i have right now is, i think god chose his people from the beginning, he allready know and the people who will be open to receive information are blessed.

    Greetings D. from the Netherlands

  40. Amen! May the Holy Spirit be with you always…and forever…2011…2012…

    Peace and love of Father and Mother be with you sister.

    Mark, brother

  41. This people who come up to you in the mall are part of a cult. It only makes sense. Why would you have to try to foist your religion onto people? Look, I’m an educated person…but I know cult practice when I see it. These people only approach me when I’m alone. I’m a young 20-something female…and it’s only when I’m alone that these people come up to me. Usually I’m in a mall or some crowded place. I usually just ignore them when they start talking to me about “god the mother” and then they sort of hurry off shamedly and leave the store/premisis immediately before I can report them for soliciting. No one EVER approaches me when I’m with my mom or boyfriend. I also never see them go up to older men or women. These people are taught who to approach/who not to approach. They try to find vulnerable people. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some sort of “tithing” you have to pay in order to continue being a member of this “church”. It’s ridiculous. All cults are started by individuals claiming to be some sort of new coming of Jesus and this is no different. Use your head people!

  42. Don’t take these people lightly. There is a fool born every minute and I am Talking from my own experience since my own daughter fell for this bums who talk about Heavenly mother and Heavenly father. They destroy families by talking about the end of the world . They definitely are fans of highlighters and they are taught like a parrot by picking up lines from the bible that talks about Jahng Gil-Jah. Please keep away from them.

  43. I was aproached by an old friend today, concerning mother god. My response to it all is simply this, I am sceptical of anything that cannot be discussed openly and without a script. If this belief system is “truth” then why are they not forthcoming with information about themselves? I had to ask 4 times before I could get an answer about what church she attends.

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